Epistemology
-I would like to see a further defense of propositional truth. Off the top of my head I am thinking about metaphorical truth as another way of communicating about reality. The bigger issue though is that propositions are a way of talking about reality and are not truth in and of themselves. It would seem that you took Truth out of Metaphysics and limited it only to Epistemology.
A proposition is defined as the meaning of a declarative sentence. Metaphors contain propositions insofar as they can be considered meaningful. If sense can be made of the metaphor, it is propositional, just in figurative garb. Truth is defined as the outcome of an argument that is both valid and sound. The opposite of true is false. Only propositions can be understood to be true or false. Questions and interrogatory sentences aren't propositions because they cannot be answered true or false. They can be made into propositions if taken in separate form. All statements about physical or spiritual reality (metaphysics) are propositional in nature.
-Why is ‘absolute’ certainty important to justification? Is this type of certainty even in the range of possibility for an individual created being? What does faith look like in through the eyes of this brand of certainty?
My post didn't mentions "absolute" certainty. Absolute here is nothing more than a superfluous adjective. One is either certain (knows without doubt) or uncertain (believes, but without deductive rationale). A created individual endowed with reason, which is an aspect of being created in God's image, can be certain. Certainty is the product of deductive conclusions. So long as the premises are known to be true, the conclusions drawn from them must also be true, and that certainly. Faith is a bit more complicated topic, and one we should take up in one of our subsequent postings. Perhaps after we tackle Truth, we should deal with faith.
-It seems like you are equating ‘placing Scripture as the only venue for certainty therefore the only source of knowledge’ with ‘preserving the value of Scripture’. Clarity and defense are needed.
I don't think I am conflating the two. We mustn't conflate certainty with the psychological matter of true belief. True belief does not always equal certainty. As for preserving the value of Scripture, I think such is always the case when we describe Scripture in a way that is true. So describing Scripture as the source of certain knowledge is to preserve its value. I'm not sure what clarity is lacking on that point. A defense of the position requires you to pose some sort of argument against it.
- An explanation/definition of ‘direct illumination’ is crucial?
The work of the Holy Spirit to enlighten the mind to the truth. Read Augustine's "On the Teacher," or De Magistro. Christ is who enlightens all minds to the truth, even unbelieving minds. He does not enlighten every mind to saving truth, but anything that is true comes from Christ revealing it to ours minds.
-How does Scripture fulfill the requirements of knowledge better then anything else? In other words, what support do you have that ‘direct illumination’ only occurs with Scripture?
Two ways.
1) Scripture testifies that it is God's Word to man, and God, being the source of Truth, is therefore the most reliable (indeed, the only reliable) means of attaining truth.
2) Scripture frequently testifies to the fact that wisdom, knowledge, and truth come from God. Unless you wish to embrace pantheism, God is not identical with what He has created, therefore what God has created cannot be a source of Truth, for God alone is the source of Truth.
-To summarize, if truth is not grounded into reality but grounded in our knowledge of reality then the only way to advert relativism is to insist on the certainty of knowledge. With this you are internally consistent. Your entire system therefore hinges in the inherent certainty and clarity in the connection between the Scripture, the Holy Spirit, and your mind. Once again you recognize this.
I don't know how you arrived at this conclusion. Truth is not grounded in our minds. Truth is grounded in God, who enlightens our minds to know what is true. By "reality" do you mean the created world exclusively or preeminently? God is the foundation of reality, so my recognition that Truth is sourced in God and known by us when He reveals it to our minds, and reveals it certainly through His Word, is not a denial of truth grounded in "reality." God is more "real" than His creation, since creation is contingent, whereas God is not.
I can see two major categories of problems with such a system. The first is a limited scope. It would seem on first glance that you are not casting a wide enough net, that there will be things that will not fit into your system that you will have to make unnatural connections with later on. I don’t have any specific examples so we will just have to wait until we get to more specific categories to see if my prediction is right. The second (and more important) is a consistency with reality. While observation in your system does not give authority, there should be legitimate interpretation of any individual experience/observation that comes up. (legitimate being the potentially disputed word there) I see potential problems with the normative Christian experience and the certainty of knowledge from Scripture.
I think you are seeing things that are not there. Most of what you are saying here is unspecified. How am I limiting my scope? What is not being fit into my system? As you say, specific examples would be appreciated. Your sense of the matter may simply be a result of the confusion I've tried to address above.
Metaphysics
-‘unknowable in the strictest sense of knowledge’ needs more explanation.
The original quotes was: "Things in themselves are unknowable in the strictest sense of the word."
I'm simply saying that God has not revealed to us the full nature of created things. You can provide a definition of "tree" and I can agree to it. Beyond these definitions, however, we do not reach some intuited notion of "treeness." The comment was particularly a reply to philosophies that find language inadequate to provide a knowledge of things. It was probably more than was necessary, and unhelpful at that.
-Explanations such as ‘math propositions derived from Scripture’ seems unnecessary and overly complicated not to mention metaphysically unsound.
Why is it unnecessary to say that mathematics is derivative of Scriptural truth? How is the statement "metaphysically unsound"? Jacob, I appreciate your opinion, but you are going to have to provide reasons why your opinions of my view are valid criticism, as opposed to making unsubstantiated assertions.
-I have many problems with nature being not having any self-revelatory aspects. So we will need a longer discussion about this later.
Ok. When you do discuss this, I would like for you to provide an argument demonstrating how inanimate objects can be self-revelatory. My argument is that the truth concerning created objects is revealed by their Creator, by His illumination of our minds. I noted that such knowledge is certain only when deduced from Scripture. You can make true statements about creation, but the epistemic ground upon which you stand and make such statements as a Christian is different from the epistemic ground upon which an atheist stands. When you and the atheist agree to the true statement, "The tree is healthy and has edible fruit" you are both correct, but your presuppositions (God made the tree) are sound and consistent whereas his (Evolution made the tree) are unsound and inconsistent. How exactly does "The tree is healthy and has edible fruit" in itself, apart from these presuppositions, lead to knowledge about God?
-While a hierarchy within a system is not necessarily bad it seems like everything in your system is overtly determined by epistemology (something like an epistemological dictatorship). A potential problems being a rather small Metaphysics: is there anything in existence outside the potential realm of our knowledge?
I think three things need to be distinguished here.
1) My system, insofar as it is mine, is determined by what I know, or more specifically, what there is to know, which is to say, it is determined by my epistemology. Can a system be governed without knowledge?
2) My system, insofar as it is correct, is determined by God's Truth, and not by my own epistemology. The source and ground of truth is not my knowledge of it, but God's self-knowledge.
3) God has not revealed all truths to men, but every truth that God has revealed is truth that we should seek to know. No one can discover metaphysical truths that God has not determined to reveal. For example, we do not have the ability to describe the precise way in which God inspired each and every Biblical writer as to the Truth. We know that God did inspire these men. We know that God inspired them by making use of their human personality and abilities. We know that God inspired them fully, and not in part. But there are certainly metaphysical questions that we do not have answers to, nor will we ever, unless God reveals them in glory.
I think you are conflating what I may know certainly or truly with what may be known certainly or truly. The individual's grasp of the truth is not equal to the whole of truth that may be grasped. However, the ground of truth is fixed in God, the source of all truth, and is known only by His revelation of it to our minds.
-This leads to my other observation: that your embrace of rationalism due to your epistemology. A potential problem with exclusive reliance on rationalism is a system that starts to resemble a ‘mental’ Gnosticism. Everything starts to depend on mental functions/capacity. The rest of the body and physical existence is essentially without purpose.
You are making some strained connections here Jacob. What exactly do you suppose by the term "rationalism"? Do you mean atheistic rationalism? Deistic rationalism? Stoic rationalism? I conceive of myself as a Christian rationalist, that is, one who accepts the Bible to be the Word of God as my fundamental axiom, from which all other truths may be deduced or must rely upon for their validity. The opposite of any kind of rationalism is irrationalism. The counterpart to rationalism that is not irrational is empiricism. Are you an irrationalist or an empiricist? If so, we can debate about the merits of these epistemologies, but it would be best to do so prior to associating me with gnosticism. Besides, I think your attribution is more evidence of your failure to distinguish the ground of knowledge (God) from my ability to possess that knowledge subjectively. Accepting that truth is spiritual (God is a Spirit, after all) does not lead to a denial of the reality of physical substance, or its purposes. I'm baffled as to how you would reach that conclusion, but if you want to explain yourself, I'm listening.
Ethics
-I don’t have many questions concerning ethics besides providing further detail into what glorifies God.
We can do this in a subsequent topic posting if you like. My basic answer would be that, insofar as we consider the responsibility of human beings, what glorifies God is obedience to His commands. But in a fuller sense, all that happens brings glory to God, because all things happen according to His will, and the purpose of His willing is to glorify Himself.